What kind of % mileage improvements do other people experience with MMO alone? 
Posted: 23 July 2010 10:52 PM   [ Ignore ]
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I would like to get a feel of past mileage improvements with:

Car type, miles on clock, and other things used or special conditions if applicable.

THANKS!!

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Posted: 24 July 2010 05:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I’m just starting to use MMO in my new vehicle, but I used it consistently in my old car.

2000 Toyota Corolla; 1.8 DOHC, 3spd Auto:

MPG average before MMO; 29.6mpg
MPG average after MMO; just under 31mpg, a little under 5% improvement.

This was with MMO added to the fuel and added to the oil w/ Mobil Delvac 15w40(oil burning). Nothing else used during this time. Car had 167,000 miles when I traded it in.

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Posted: 24 July 2010 05:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I have seen no MPG increase in my daily driver but then again, increased mileage is not why I use MMO.

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Posted: 24 July 2010 08:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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That’s real good mileage for a 4 cylinder! I’ve got 200K on 10/30 oil changed religiously at 3K miles. The last half dozen changes have had high mileage oil and a stabilizer put in. It wasn’t burning any oil, or not enough to add between changes, but I could smell it when I started up: like valve guide seals. But its running real strong now and no noticeable smoke at startups.

MMO will help me on my million mile run!

5% mileage increase was about what I thought or remember from an ad. I am counting on an interaction effect from the mileage treatment and MMO. IF I end up not moving to school, that will be 34,800 more miles in 4 semesters on the Dakota.

Hopefully, MMO will help keep it out of the garages. Once you go in one, stuff always seems to happen! Around 75K and 200K, I spent $1K and $3K. But I wanted it to be safe now at least the first semester before I move probably.

Thanks for the feedback!!

Panthermike - 24 July 2010 05:16 PM

I’m just starting to use MMO in my new vehicle, but I used it consistently in my old car.

2000 Toyota Corolla; 1.8 DOHC, 3spd Auto:

MPG average before MMO; 29.6mpg
MPG average after MMO; just under 31mpg, a little under 5% improvement.

This was with MMO added to the fuel and added to the oil w/ Mobil Delvac 15w40(oil burning). Nothing else used during this time. Car had 167,000 miles when I traded it in.

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Posted: 25 July 2010 01:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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U should get a long life if ur using MMO all the time.  If one is getting a 5 percent increase in mileage, u are saving tons of money.  If I could get a 5% increase in mileage I would save 100s if not a few thousand dollars since I buy 300 dollars of gas a week on the average in my job.  I use MMO in my oil to, M1 5w40, 12 oz only.  I need all the help I can get at 8000 miles a month.  I do 10k oci, I cant afford 3000oci, I would wear out my drain plug and synthetic oils can do 10k,oci easy.

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Posted: 25 July 2010 12:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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skyraider - 25 July 2010 01:34 AM

U should get a long life if ur using MMO all the time.  If one is getting a 5 percent increase in mileage, u are saving tons of money.  If I could get a 5% increase in mileage I would save 100s if not a few thousand dollars since I buy 300 dollars of gas a week on the average in my job.  I use MMO in my oil to, M1 5w40, 12 oz only.  I need all the help I can get at 8000 miles a month.  I do 10k oci, I cant afford 3000oci, I would wear out my drain plug and synthetic oils can do 10k,oci easy.

That’s a good point to consider. Except since I’m on my high mileage oil now, won’t that blow expensive synthetic out the tolerances now? AND I do run about 500 miles over to 3500 miles per oil change with high mileage and oil stabiliizer both.

Unless you have a newer car valve technology with the lighter oil, the synthetic I thought and have experienced before will just blow out the valves. And that gets expensive on a starving student’s budget.

But with your excitement about 5%, you can now see why I attempted to use acetone with 20%+ mileage improvement (like before ethanol gas was law) and even better performance than before (mild turbo performance on my 2 valve 3.9l 6 cyl w/200K miles on clock).

I think a cocktail of MMO and a well known additive company should get near. From what I can gather, the treatment alone may get near the mileage alone, but MMO has more lubricity and its cheaper too. At least now I know better about unleaded fuel and how to make a proper cocktail.

But if I was willing to spare another fuel pump, I’d bet the combo of MMO and acetone would work. The only problem is my fuel filter is built inside my gas tank on the fuel pump (real bad design!).

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Posted: 25 July 2010 05:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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yjacket2001 - 25 July 2010 12:52 PM

The only problem is my fuel filter is built inside my gas tank on the fuel pump (real bad design!).

You should have a mesh screen on your fuel pump in the tank but the true fuel filter should be under the hood or in the fuel line to the engine. What’s the vehicle again?

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Posted: 25 July 2010 07:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Its a 1994 Dodge Dakota 3.9l. The fuel pump sits on a round filter that looks like a round mini bike air filter, pleated paper in screen mesh holder. I guess that is a conversion that would be good, what you suggest. It’s a real fine truck otherwise. But changing your fuel pump if you want to change your fuel filter is thinking a little outside the box for me. All makes of all vehicles cut corners somewhere, and I may not have ever noticed anything if I did not use acetone (still an arguable question, but $400 is too risky for me now!).

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Posted: 01 August 2010 11:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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For many years I rode a 1981 Honda CBX, this is a air-cooled inline 6 with 24 valves and six carbs. They were notorious for getting lousy gas mileage, usually from the mid twenties to the mid thirties. They also required frequent valve adjustments and carburator synchronozations. I used MMO in this bike consistently at a one-ounce-per-gallon ratio, even carried it with me on long road trips in a bottle with measurements on the side (thank you for the new clear bottles!).

Anyhow, I regularly got mileage in the mid forties on my bike. And all the folks at the ICOA (International CBX Owners Association) I rode with doubted what I said. Then one day coming home from a weekend at Morro Bay CA, a few of us were riding togother. We rode about 100 miles. They all filled up before we left, I started with 20 miles on a tank. When we got to the fuel stop (because they were all running low), mine took almost a gallon less than everyone elses. Everyone noticed and asked about that, upon which I told them the same thing I had always told them, MMO at one-ounce-per-gallon.

About those valve adjusts and carb syncs. I put 50,000 miles on the bike before I sold it, after owning it for 16 years. During that time I had to adjust valves one time, for one loose valve. I never had to sync the carbs, the gauges always told me it was within parameters. I have always felt the MMO contributed to this fantastic performance, and now use it in every vehicle I own.

My ultimate vehicle, a 2004 Ford LIGHTNING gets 10 to 12 mpg. Really, when one buys a big truck with a Roots-blown V-8, you should not expect great mileage. I have been using MMO in it for awhile now without checking my mileage. I will do this on my next fill-up, and see what it shows. I am not concerned about it, but it would still be cool to see a 2 mpg increase. wink

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