Hi,

I was using Lucas Fuel Treatment in our vehicles and tractors prior to trying MMO. After reading through different forums and seeing how our vehicles are responding to MMO, I am planning on continuing using it in the future. I still have over half a gallon of the Lucas Fuel Treatment left, and I was wondering, would it be ok to dump in both products together when I fill up our vehicles tanks? I was thinking it would be a way to use up the Lucas, but would there be any side effects from doing so? Any benefits? It seemed as if Lucas did okay in lubricating the fuel system, but MMO seems to be the overall better product.

Thanks,

I have a bottle of lucas fuel treatment and added a bottle of mmo into the larger,,its does fine, works ok for me,,,318 ram van cargo van 212k miles and climbing............

Nice thing ‘bout those Lucas boys, they have a really small shot bottle of their product.
makes a great carrier for MMO. Just funnel it in and cap it. You can store it just about
anywhere. I keep one on my Harley. Space is always at a premium on motorcycles. 

Keep the Shiny Side Up!

.:Bone

I’m not chemist so couldn’t answer your question directly, but I’m never been a fan of “mixing” any chemicals in my gas.  If I use a fuel injector cleaner, or whatnot, I let the tank run out, and then run a “clean” tank (Mobil, Shell, etc “brand name” fuel) of fuel before I mix anything else in the tank.

For example, my 88 dodge aries:
1st tank: Seafoam
2nd tank: Nothing, just filled up with Mobil
3rd: GumOut Regane - my current fill now, on Mobil fuel - did notice the car started up really quick, didn’t need to “feather” the gas peddle as noted in my previous thread
4th: When I do fill up, likely be Mobil or Shell depending on what’s cheapest at that time.....but we’ll see

Well, it is a free world so everyone can do whatever they like.

Personally, I like the idea of buying less expensive fuel,
(which has a low octane rating) and turning into a more
complete fuel. One that burns fully, is more ecologically
friendly and has a higher octane rating. One that not only
provides energy for an engine, but also allows that
engine to run to the best of it’s ability.

Optimum power from an optimum fuel source.

Improvements with internal combustion engines and the
fuels they use for power, will allow us to build a superior
power provider using even cleaner burning fuels in the
future.

Just my 2cts.

Keep the Shiny Side Up!

.:Bone

p.s.; It’s not cold fusion, but it’s the best we have for right now.

BoneShkr - 05 October 2010 11:01 PM

Personally, I like the idea of buying less expensive fuel,
(which has a low octane rating) and turning into a more
complete fuel. One that burns fully, is more ecologically
friendly and has a higher octane rating.

.:Bone

Raising the octane level does not make your fuel better. It’s what your engine was designed to run on that matters. People that buy the highest octane fuel to run in an engine that was designed to run on regular 87 octane are just wasting money.

It does fine! The Lucas gives me 25%+ on gas mileage and efi cleaner; and the MMO is going to make my 200K mile Dakota go 2M miles!

Orangedotfever - 06 October 2010 01:18 PM

BoneShkr - 05 October 2010 11:01 PM

Personally, I like the idea of buying less expensive fuel,
(which has a low octane rating) and turning into a more
complete fuel. One that burns fully, is more ecologically
friendly and has a higher octane rating.

.:Bone

Raising the octane level does not make your fuel better. It’s what your engine was designed to run on that matters. People that buy the highest octane fuel to run in an engine that was designed to run on regular 87 octane are just wasting money.

Correct. You won’t really see any gas mileage increase by going to a higher octane unless your engine should have been using the higher octane in the first place- this is due to the engine having to change its timing if you used a low octane in a high compression engine (or due to preignition if it’s bad enough). High compression engines are more efficient but unfortunately their higher compression can cause preignition (pinging) in lower octane fuels, much in the same way that a diesel engine works by compressing a fuel charge until it explodes. This is why you have to run high octane fuel in high performance engines- in your regular vehicle you will never notice a difference.

MMO actually decreases your octane rating slightly (and increases your cetane rating slightly if you are running a diesel).

-Techniker

yjacket2001 - 06 October 2010 10:36 PM

It does fine! The Lucas gives me 25%+ on gas mileage and efi cleaner; and the MMO is going to make my 200K mile Dakota go 2M miles!

Really? I wouldn’t have expected that kind of a gain. Are you the gas or the diesel engine?

-Techniker